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After driving through yesterday's snowstorm here in Wisconsin... resistance is futile !! 36mpg
On the bright note the Michelin ICE-X 3's performed very well, passed many cars in the ditches, and many driving 30 in a 55-65. Slushy wet snow and didn't get much pull from them... kept good traction.
How many miles do you have on you're Michelin X-ice v3 Snow Tires?

When are they not snow tires anymore? After 20k miles?
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When are they not snow tires anymore? After 20k miles?
Aren't the X-Ice warrantied up to 40k miles?

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How many miles do you have on you're Michelin X-ice v3 Snow Tires?

When are they not snow tires anymore? After 20k miles?
Generally I retire a set of snow tires under 2 conditions:

1) 6/32" tread left (or whatever is half of new). Tread depth is important for deeper snow.
2) Noticeably worse performance than I'm used to with the set.

By retire I either drive them into summer down to "bald", or sell them at like $25 a piece in the spring, knowing people need tread depth to pass inspection.

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When are they not snow tires anymore? After 20k miles?
Aren't the X-Ice warrantied up to 40k miles?

Is that true?
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Aren't the X-Ice warrantied up to 40k miles?
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Is that true?
Yes. Your tires should have come with paperwork and/or the warranty is stated on Michelin's site (attached).

https://www.michelinman.com/tires/x-ice-xi3.html
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I wanted to see what I could get without using the heater tonight on my round trip.

Weather Condition: 30F and Windy
Cold Engine: 10.5 miles (42.7mpg), Normal mode, no heater usage, 60-70mph
Partially Warm Engine? (Left the car for 30 minutes): 10.5 miles (57.6mpg), Normal mode, no heater usage, 65-70mph
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I wanted to see what I could get without using the heater tonight on my round trip.

Weather Condition: 30F and Windy
Cold Engine: 10.5 miles (42.7mpg), Normal mode, no heater usage, 60-70mph
Partially Warm Engine? (Left the car for 30 minutes): 10.5 miles (57.6mpg), Normal mode, no heater usage, 65-70mph
During the beginning of our crazy snow storm (we got 17.5-18 inches). Warm car, ~10 mile drive home on thruway @ 40-45mph, 50.2mpg with heat on auto-68* and rear defrost. I was quite impressed that even with the reduced traction, as long as the battery is warm the car will do near EPA numbers.

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During the beginning of our crazy snow storm (we got 17.5-18 inches). Warm car, ~10 mile drive home on thruway @ 40-45mph, 50.2mpg with heat on auto-68* and rear defrost. I was quite impressed that even with the reduced traction, as long as the battery is warm the car will do near EPA numbers.
Pretty good! Although 40-45mph is the very optimum speed right?

I finally got to try the Touring tires in the snow (Conti ProContact). I was actually surprised by the traction on 2 inch of untouched snow on a steep garage ramp. However the breaking is literally a disaster if there is anything more than a coating. Probably because of the silica. I know, I know, it's not a snow tire.
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During the beginning of our crazy snow storm (we got 17.5-18 inches). Warm car, ~10 mile drive home on thruway @ 40-45mph, 50.2mpg with heat on auto-68* and rear defrost. I was quite impressed that even with the reduced traction, as long as the battery is warm the car will do near EPA numbers.
Was this with the Michelin A/S Energy Savers (EX), or did you install snow tires?
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Was this with the Michelin A/S Energy Savers (EX), or did you install snow tires?
Still on the OEM tires, haven't purchased snow tires yet. Had a few issues in the sloppy wet mess that is today, but nothing a quick roll back and gain momentum couldn't over come. So far I'm impressed with these tires in the snow, managed to pull out the end of the driveway through 6-7 inches with absolutely no issue.

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