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Any way to fit 3 small children in the back???

Hi Everyone,
Well, when I bought my insight last summer I was happy enough with the space in the back for my 4-yr-old and my 8-yr-old, and I was not planning for more children. But NOW . . . by next spring I will have a newborn, a 5-yr-old, and a 9-yr-old!!! Not really what we were planning but still happy that this is what's in store for us. So I'm assuming I'll need to sell this car, which I'm pretty bummed about. Unless there's any way I can reasonably fit two booster seats plus and infant seat (and later convertible seat) in the back.

Right now my 5-yr-old is ready to graduate from a convertible seat to a booster, so I think I need to start by buying one of the narrowest high-back boosters I can find for her. If I do need to sell the car for something bigger, I will still be wanting to fit the 3 kids across a backseat I'm sure. I do not want a huge car with 3 rows!

Does anyone have experience fitting 3 little ones in the back of the Insight?

If I do need to buy something new, are there any suggestions for something with a wider backseat that's not a big, gas-guzzling car? Something still eco-friendly? (The Clarity would be cool but we'll be probably looking for something cheaper and slightly used since we will be going from 2 incomes to 1 for a little while).

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Congrats on your growing family! The seat specs for the Insight are identical to the Civic Sedan (I've measured!). Also keep in mind that cars have grown over time, so the current gen Civic/Insight has the same interior space as older gen Accords. You're likely already aware that the outer rear seat positions are LATCH-compatible, and there are 3 rear tether points.

While shopping for seat covers, "car seat" topic would come up in same search. I saw some posts and videos that may be helpful as you consider whether the Insight is large enough for your needs:

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Civic Sedan - 2 examples (Diono Rainier suggested) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/for-t...r-seats.16685/
Civic SI - 3 across (Diono Radian suggested) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/am-i-...e.21173/page-3
Civic Sedan - rear seat cover + car seat (this brought me to CivicX, LOL) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/rear-...er.4285/page-2
Civic Type R - rear seat protector - https://www.civicx.com/threads/for-t...the-ctr.13737/

VIDEOS:
Civic Sedan - 3 seats fit (if narrow seats used) - youtu.be/O8uQD1aeXZQ
Civic Hatch - roomy fit for rear-facing seats - youtu.be/ubvOPwYOhJU?t=562
Diono Radian review - 3 across in a Chevy Cobalt - youtu.be/dHNXUCftabs?t=45
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Hi Everyone,
Well, when I bought my insight last summer I was happy enough with the space in the back for my 4-yr-old and my 8-yr-old, and I was not planning for more children. But NOW . . . by next spring I will have a newborn, a 5-yr-old, and a 9-yr-old!!! Not really what we were planning but still happy that this is what's in store for us. So I'm assuming I'll need to sell this car, which I'm pretty bummed about. Unless there's any way I can reasonably fit two booster seats plus and infant seat (and later convertible seat) in the back.

Right now my 5-yr-old is ready to graduate from a convertible seat to a booster, so I think I need to start by buying one of the narrowest high-back boosters I can find for her. If I do need to sell the car for something bigger, I will still be wanting to fit the 3 kids across a backseat I'm sure. I do not want a huge car with 3 rows!
Three across carseats in any compact sedan or SUV is problematic, mainly due to finding something that will not only fit in the center seat but also fit correctly next to both other carseats. Fortunately, with two boosters, you should be able to find an arrangement that works. Either a very narrow booster if it fits with good belt fit on the child in the middle seat (perhaps a Harmony Youth Booster or BubbleBum) or eventually your 9-year old when they are no longer in a booster. That should leave plenty of room for one carseat and one booster on each side. If you have the two boosters center and passenger side, that may make it a little easier for them to buckle next to each other.

As for a bigger car, a hybrid Accord or Camry are certainly wider and will make 3-across easier. They are almost as fuel efficient as Insight.

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https://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicles/niro/2019
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The Kia Niro is around the same price as the Insight and is a hybrid. Not sure if the backseats are wider...

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The Kia Niro is around the same price as the Insight and is a hybrid. Not sure if the backseats are wider...
Here are rear seat dimension comparisons for the cars suggested so far. Interesting that the Kia Niro Hybrid SUV seat specs are only slightly better than the Insight. The Clarity 'wins' by 0.5-1.0 inch in shoulder and hip room.

INSIGHT - Head = 36.9 | Leg = 37.4 | Shoulder = 55.0 | Hip = 47.3
ACC HYB - Head = 37.3 | Leg = 40.4 | Shoulder = 56.5 | Hip = 55.0
CLARITY - Head = 37.1 | Leg = 36.2 | Shoulder = 57.3 | Hip = 55.6
CAM HYB - Head = 37.6 | Leg = 38.0 | Shoulder = 55.7 | Hip = 54.6
KIA NIRO - Head = 39.1 | Leg = 37.4 | Shoulder = 55.2 | Hip = 48.3
CR-V HYB - Head = 39.1 | Leg = 40.0 | Shoulder = 55.0 | Hip = 49.0
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I had a Niro EV this summer for a review. The rear seat was essentially the same as the Ioniq. Pretty similar to Insight in terms of 3-across. The downside is a little less room to the front seat to fit a rear-facing carseat without moving the front seats forward. The Niro PHEV and Ioniq PHEV shared one other aspect, a choppy ride which a couple people in my family found nauseating. Most CUVs are similar too, the new RAV4 is only slightly better than Insight. You really need to go to a midsize vehicle to have a significantly better chance of 3-across or a better variety of carseats that work anyway.

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I take my daughter and two of her friends to school in the mornings quite often (they are older so no booster seats) and they are quite content.. Moving on, I have actually had a baby seat along with two friends.. Momma sat in the back and Dad sat up in the front. She put the seat in the middle and all was good.
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ARTICLES:
Civic Sedan - 2 examples (Diono Rainier suggested) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/for-t...r-seats.16685/
Civic SI - 3 across (Diono Radian suggested) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/am-i-...e.21173/page-3
Civic Sedan - rear seat cover + car seat (this brought me to CivicX, LOL) - https://www.civicx.com/threads/rear-...er.4285/page-2
Civic Type R - rear seat protector - https://www.civicx.com/threads/for-t...the-ctr.13737/

VIDEOS:
Civic Sedan - 3 seats fit (if narrow seats used) - youtu.be/O8uQD1aeXZQ
Civic Hatch - roomy fit for rear-facing seats - youtu.be/ubvOPwYOhJU?t=562
Diono Radian review - 3 across in a Chevy Cobalt - youtu.be/dHNXUCftabs?t=45
Incidentally, I really like Alex on Autos videos as one of my favorite sources of reviews. Even so, certain car seats discussions make me question if he is a certified child passenger safety technician as some of the 3-across setups don't look like they would conform to best practice recommendations. Also, the reference seat he uses is a rather outdated budget model that isn't all that popular today. The more common seats with higher limits and the popular all-in-one models tend to be bigger and even more difficult to fit 3-across. Honestly, any variation of carseats or, in some cases, even a change in vehicle trim levels can turn an acceptable installation into an incompatible one. With the exception of certain full size vehicles and a couple minivan second rows, it's really difficult to bless a 3-across possibility unless I have done that exact same setup with the same carseats and same model/year/trim vehicle.

Also, the Diono harnessed seats mentioned are among the narrowest and there are certain situations like narrow middle seats where they may work while other carseats will not. On the other hand, they are also expensive, have relatively low height limits and tend to have a much steeper learning curve with installation and use than many newer carseats. Most important to note, they are pretty heavy and if you do buy one, make sure to get an easy/free returns policy because shipping one back at your own expense can cost a small fortune.

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Incidentally, I really like Alex on Autos videos as one of my favorite sources of reviews. Even so, certain car seats discussions make me question if he is a certified child passenger safety technician as some of the 3-across setups don't look like they would conform to best practice recommendations.
Ha, yes. His illustration of a 3-across fit looked... awkward. It takes narrower car seats and in-car test fit to confirm by model, as you mentioned.
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My first thought would be the 2020 CR-V hybrid, but it'll be new, and probably not help with the single income thing. Also not particularly sure if it fits three across any better. On a plus side, I've driven a 2017 CR-V which was actually the whole reason why we looked at Honda for our newest car purchase, and fell in love with it (albeit hating CVT). Had the car for a 2.5 hour drive (did twice same day).

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