Driver's seat lumbar support?

For those of us exploring lumbar support options, was hoping that @hobokencentral and @LennyR could provide perspective, building on their prior posts in the 'Clarity' thread: https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/1...-test-drive-impressions-vs-honda-clarity.html

hobokencentral said:

Seat cushions that I will be testing with Insight EX model:
https://www.lifeformchairs.com/wedge-seat-cushion-3/
https://www.lifeformchairs.com/lumbar-cushion/

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How did these test options turn out?

Any luck with this?

phil

I've come across two decent options from searching around. Both are Honda branded and available in a few different colors. The second is actually memory foam as well. Not sure about fitment.

https://www.overstock.com/Health-Beauty/Honda-Lumbar-Cushion-Back-Support/9779065/product.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Leather-Lumbar-Support-Pillow-Cushion-Memory-Foam-Backrest-For-Honda/123272263647?hash=item1cb39977df:m:msF8stOSN1Dw9ymldtqRNWQ:rk:1f:0

Memory Foam is where its at from my experience. Automakers like Honda rarely get it right from the start and specialty brands are often the solution.

insightfully said:

For those of us exploring lumbar support options, was hoping that @hobokencentral and @LennyR could provide perspective, building on their prior posts in the 'Clarity' thread: https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/1...-test-drive-impressions-vs-honda-clarity.html



How did these test options turn out?

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Insightfully, sorry for the long delay in responding. I love both cushions that I posted a link to - especially the wedge/ seat one that lets my backside rise approx three inches and is more ergonomic in sitting. Not sure if you are looking for something else...an overall update as per my earlier impressions vs Honda Clarity?

hobokencentral said:

Insightfully, sorry for the long delay in responding. I love both cushions that I posted a link to - especially the wedge/ seat one that lets my backside rise approx three inches and is more ergonomic in sitting. Not sure if you are looking for something else...an overall update as per my earlier impressions vs Honda Clarity?

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Thanks for responding. Was wondering how the cushions turned out, and if you'd recommend them. It sounds like they were worthwhile adds for driving, even though somewhat pricy.

insightfully said:

Thanks for responding. Was wondering how the cushions turned out, and if you'd recommend them. It sounds like they were worthwhile adds for driving, even though somewhat pricy.

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Insightfully, I would STRONGLY recommend the cushions - as I can confidently say that these are a couple of the world's best cushions (no exaggeration). They are expensive as ****, but incredibly comfortable and single-handedly kept the Insight in play when I was first considering cars. Again a reminder that I was so turned off by the lack of comfort in the drivers seat that I would likely have chosen another car instead. Of course, very few people will pay some $300 for a couple of cushions for seat/ lumbar, but that made the difference for me.

The lack of lumbar support for me in the 2017 civic and now in our 2019 insight has been an issue for me and my back. Just ordered this guy and it’s coming next week https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LMU2OB4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Will report back how it does.

Square Eyes said:

The lack of lumbar support for me in the 2017 civic and now in our 2019 insight has been an issue for me and my back. Just ordered this guy and it’s coming next week https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LMU2OB4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Will report back how it does.

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When you receive it, I'm curious to know if the cushion just "leans" or is attached in some way. I would find it annoying to adjust the lumbar cushion each time I enter/exit.

Curious as well. The lack of adjustability on this would make me skeptical.

Jc_vt said:

Curious as well. The lack of adjustability on this would make me skeptical.

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Received the cushion and it looks fantastic and feels much better on my back, however it does require adjustment before and sometimes during a drive.

@Wasabi re-surfaced lumbar improvement suggestion in the "Things I Would Change" thread... which reminded me of a recent thought on the lack of lumbar.

When in the driver's seat, it feels like the headrest is too far forward compared to older Hondas. It makes me hunch/round my back while seated, rather than feeling full support from the seat behind me. It made me wonder if the solutions posted here work because they raise the driver up (pad headrest) or make the back support protrude further from the seat (back cushion). I was going to try a few drives with the headrest removed and/or re-positioned, to see if that can improve the feeling of lumbar support.

@insightfully - Same issue here. The Insight headrest tilts forward a bit more than my last car. Due to my preferred seating position, it was pushing my head forward. A simple trip to Amazon resulted in a memory foam neck pillow and it is just awesome. It's also perfect for a nap while waiting for my daughter's dance class to end.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HNBDG1J/

hasarad said:

@insightfully - Same issue here. The Insight headrest tilts forward a bit more than my last car. Due to my preferred seating position, it was pushing my head forward. A simple trip to Amazon resulted in a memory foam neck pillow and it is just awesome. It's also perfect for a nap while waiting for my daughter's dance class to end.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HNBDG1J/

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Wow, I like this 'neck pillow' option best out all suggestions! Small change, and big difference. I tried a temporary neck prop version tonight and noticed definite improvement in overall support from the seat. What a difference sitting up straighter makes!

There's a very simple solution to getting more lumbar support out of the seats and getting the headrest to not jut out so far: adjust the seat to a position that reclines more than you're accustomed to, and scoot your butt back into the backrest. This is very comfortable and supportive. I ruptured my L5 S1 disc, could barely walk for a few years and then had a laminectomy in '94 that basically fixed it except for intermitted relapses since then. The Insight seat has far more support and comfort than the '06 Civic I traded in.

insightfully said:

When in the driver's seat, it feels like the headrest is too far forward compared to older Hondas.

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I think they made it like that to prevent whiplash from a rear end collision. From what I remember the head needs to be as close to the headrest as possible.

andrew28 said:

I think they made it like that to prevent whiplash from a rear end collision. From what I remember the head needs to be as close to the headrest as possible.

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Agree. It's another reason I like the neck pillow recommendation, since it preserves intended head contact/support but in a more comfortable position to straighten the back. Until the suggestion from @hasarad, I'd been focused on support options for the lower back part of the seat.

Sounds like a good addition. How did you select that particular one? This one looks interesting too: https://www.amazon.com/ZATOOTO-Head...llow&qid=1556022639&s=gateway&sr=8-3-fkmrnull

hasarad said:

@insightfully - Same issue here. The Insight headrest tilts forward a bit more than my last car. Due to my preferred seating position, it was pushing my head forward. A simple trip to Amazon resulted in a memory foam neck pillow and it is just awesome. It's also perfect for a nap while waiting for my daughter's dance class to end.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HNBDG1J/

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