From time to time I like to search "Honda Insight 2019" on youtube and sort by upload date to see any new consumer opinions on the insight. Came across this Russian video of a series of crash test on the insight. Thought I leave it here.
Euro NCAP: Insight crash test video 9/26/18
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I'm not sure of the significance of these crash test videos. I guess you could say "this is what would happen without your "Crash Mitigation" feature
I'm surprised there have been no other comments on this thread. Maybe fear of the possible consequences of a momentary lapse of concentration ?
I'm surprised there have been no other comments on this thread. Maybe fear of the possible consequences of a momentary lapse of concentration ?
These tests are done by the NHTSA. The Insight passed with 5 stars for frontal, side, and rollover. You can download and read the full technical report here. http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/database/MEDIA/GetMedia.aspx?tstno=10387&index=1&database=V&type=R
I usually go by what the IIHS reports since they're more stringent than the US government's tests.
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/honda/insight-4-door-sedan/2019
I usually go by what the IIHS reports since they're more stringent than the US government's tests.
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/honda/insight-4-door-sedan/2019
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The first link you mentioned wouldn't open for me
Would you agree that the Frontal Impact test must have been made without Crash Mitigation engaged ?
Would you agree that the Frontal Impact test must have been made without Crash Mitigation engaged ?
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2019/HONDA/INSIGHT
Visit the above site. Scroll down, and click the technical report download link.
Yes, because they're trying to see how hurt the dummy/occupants will be in a frontal crash.
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The IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) is a really neat place to visit. Having worked for a major insurance company for 20 years, I had the opportunity , twice, to go there and watch two cars being crashed. The IHHS is in Ruckersville, a small town 12 to 15 miles north of Charlottesville VA. I live in Richmond VA which is about 90 minutes southeast of Ruckersville. The facility is open to the public and they have a small museum of cars they have crashed over the years. Each one tells how well or poor they performed and also indicate, from crash dummies used in the tests, the extent of injuries received or death of the driver.
The reason the tests performed by the IIHS are really accurate is the frontal crash is not head-on but is a 60/40 offset of direct head-on because information obtained from massive accidents over the years has supported the 60/40 offset way more often. Also the test is performed at 40 mph. The government safety test is a direct head-on at 30mph.
The reason the tests performed by the IIHS are really accurate is the frontal crash is not head-on but is a 60/40 offset of direct head-on because information obtained from massive accidents over the years has supported the 60/40 offset way more often. Also the test is performed at 40 mph. The government safety test is a direct head-on at 30mph.
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I might be wrong, but I think the lack of comments relate to this type of safety testing now being 'standard' and expected as part of safety ratings (which is a good thing!)
The videos reflect the tests the NHTSA performed to come up with their final 'star' rating for the Insight (and other cars). The NHTSA tests are standardized for each tested car (similar to discussion in this thread re: Japan's testing standards - https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/2...e-tech-will-help-avoiding-hitting-deer-2.html)
The video titles correspond to the NHTSA test that was conducted. The NHTSA calls them "NCAP (New Car Assessment Program) Test Procedures" and the NHTSA describes the intended 'scenario' for each of these tests as follows. (The colorful 'scenario' descriptions are NHTSA's words, not mine!) - https://www.safercar.gov/NCAP_Test_Procedures
- 1st video = frontal impact test = Scenario where you are heading south on a two-lane road, while another vehicle is driving north on that street. The driver in the other vehicle starts to fall asleep at the wheel and veers into your lane. Suddenly, you collide head-on with the northbound vehicle.
- 2nd video = side (barrier) impact test = Scenario where you pull up to a four-way intersection and make a complete stop, look to your left and right and begin to accelerate into the intersection. Another vehicle approaches the same intersection, but doesn’t yield at the stop sign and hits your vehicle on the driver’s side.
- 3rd video = side pole impact = On a rainy afternoon, you’re driving down a curved street in your neighborhood. All of a sudden, you lose control of the vehicle. You start sliding on the road sideways and crash into a telephone pole on the driver’s side.
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andrew28, when I click on technical report link I get a "Error, Failed to load" message
lowrider, above frontal test seems to be without offset, and at 35 mph not 40
insightfully, do you know if the "forward collision warning test" results are available to us "somewhere" ?
lowrider, above frontal test seems to be without offset, and at 35 mph not 40
insightfully, do you know if the "forward collision warning test" results are available to us "somewhere" ?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13z-kSCQ8bAMlCP2YQTUBf39RkD7UfKPv/view?usp=sharing
I uploaded a copy to my google drive. You can download it from the above link.
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NHTS is the government test, not IIHS!
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Correct... IIHS was founded by insurance agencies, then became a non-profit group focused on crash-related deaths, injuries and property damage. IIHS (1959) is older than the NHTSA (1970), but the NHTSA is the 'official' US group responsible for reducing deaths, injuries and losses related to crashes.
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Haven't seen video for "forward collision warning" that is specific to the Insight, but the NHTSA shares the following general videos for the tests. https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/safety-technologies
You can use this along with the prior links I provided above on their official testing protocol. The testing results are rolled into the overall 'star' rating they report in tested aspects for each car.
VIDEOS
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDTe4W9O3U4 - from this NHTSA webpage
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpwjcsH5aXU - from this NHTSA webpage
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MotorTrend just published their 4th 'long term review' focusing this time on the Gen3 Insight's crash rating. It provides descriptions that are timely, as they parallel some of your questions on testing purpose and/or meaning of results.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/hon...sight-long-term-update-4-safest-hybrid-review
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One thing on my mind (unanswered) is when the NHTSA and IIHS will start adding tests that are specific to "safe power shutdown" for EV and hybrid vehicles. It's communicated/assumed that the power shutdown system works (see this Emergency Response Guide thread and pg 15 of Owners Manual attached), but it seems like another safety aspect that should be validated by federal review, especially as electrified cars become more prevalent on the road.
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Following insightfully's link to Motor Trend article, then clicking on "all the details on the 2019 Honda Insight's performance in IIHS safety testing here", then on "Front crash prevention", I was very pleased to see this conclusion on IHSS test :
Front crash prevention
System details
standard Honda Sensing
Applies to 2019 models
Overall evaluation
This system meets the requirements for forward collision warning.
In the 12 mph IIHS test, this vehicle avoided a collision.
In the 25 mph IIHS test, this vehicle avoided a collision.
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Front crash prevention
System details
standard Honda Sensing
Applies to 2019 models
Overall evaluation
This system meets the requirements for forward collision warning.
In the 12 mph IIHS test, this vehicle avoided a collision.
In the 25 mph IIHS test, this vehicle avoided a collision.
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Automotive industry experts agree with you on IIHS tests being a better read.
Here's an interesting recap from TorqueNews.com on why experts hold IIHS results in higher regard than NHTSA results:
"The reason that many automotive experts consider IIHS testing more substantial than the NHTSA government testing is that IIHS performs its crash tests at higher speeds. IIHS also conducts testing that NHTSA does not. For example, headlight testing and passenger-side small front overlap crash evaluations. [...] IIHS does not use any taxpayer funds to conduct its testing. All costs are paid for by a consortium of insurance companies. IIHS purchases the vehicles it tests itself (they are not donated by the manufacturer)."
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