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Was enjoying the ride home from my daughter's dance class when this happened tonight:
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Because the Insight has indirect TPMS monitoring, I purchased a proper TPMS system from Amazon a few months ago:
Amazon.com: Tymate Tire Pressure Monitoring System CL205 - Full-Color Screen, 6 Alarm Modes, CLA Charging, with 4 TPMS Sensors (0-6 Bar / 0-87 PSI)… : Automotive

I'm happy to say it worked exactly as advertised. I was able to watch the pressure drop in real-time once it started alarming. I run my tires at 40psi and have the system set to alarm at 35 or below. The Insight's indirect TPMS didn't raise an alarm until pressure was down to 8psi. Fortunately, I had bought a Civic spare setup. Since I'm quick due to tire rotations every 5K miles, I was able to swap in the spare in under ten minutes.

Tire is in my garage already plugged, I'll put it back on in the morning.

Proper TPMS sensors and spare setup saved the day.
 

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Great that your TPMS worked and you got home safely!

For those of us already using the 12v adapter, the solar-powered one here might be a good solution: (ours has a wireless front camera in the 12v slot)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800909061141.html $22 shipped to US for the solar-powered one

If nothing else, some of the review translations make it worth looking at that page :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Believe it or not, in my 230k mile journey with my car , I’ve only had 4 flat tires. One happened at night and I used the compressor with fix a flat and it didn’t work, so I ended parking in a decent neighborhood and came back the next morning and got it towed to Americas Tire co. The 2nd was I got during daytime and repaired at tire shop. 3rd one happened during an Uber ride and dropped off passenger safely and got to a tire shop only to find out it was irreparable so Uber’d home because I had a brand new tire Uber’d back with tire to mount. 4th one happened where I was close to a tire shop and just drove there on flat to get it replaced.
 

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Was enjoying the ride home from my daughter's dance class when this happened tonight:
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Because the Insight has indirect TPMS monitoring, I purchased a proper TPMS system from Amazon a few months ago:
Amazon.com: Tymate Tire Pressure Monitoring System CL205 - Full-Color Screen, 6 Alarm Modes, CLA Charging, with 4 TPMS Sensors (0-6 Bar / 0-87 PSI)… : Automotive

I'm happy to say it worked exactly as advertised. I was able to watch the pressure drop in real-time once it started alarming. I run my tires at 40psi and have the system set to alarm at 35 or below. The Insight's indirect TPMS didn't raise an alarm until pressure was down to 8psi. Fortunately, I had bought a Civic spare setup. Since I'm quick due to tire rotations every 5K miles, I was able to swap in the spare in under ten minutes.

Tire is in my garage already plugged, I'll put it back on in the morning.

Proper TPMS sensors and spare setup saved the day.
Do you have to remove the sensor each time you need to add air?
 

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It looks as if these would require tire balancing after installation. Not a big deal if they were installed as part of a new tire purchase.
The sensors are very light. I did not rebalance after installation. No issues at all.
 
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Do you have to remove the sensor each time you need to add air?
Yes, the sensors replace the valve stem caps. There is a nut which goes on first and is backed into the sensor to prevent it from loosening. There is a silver lining though. Since I now know the pressure in each tire, I do not need to drag out equipment to check and set the proper pressures as often. That, and the new system picked up and alarmed way ahead of the Insight's indirect TPMS system.
 

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For those of us already using the 12v adapter, the solar powered one here might be a good solution: (ours has a wireless front camera in the 12v slot)
A good feature of the Tymate system is that the 12v unit has a USB port built in. I'm actually using that to power my MagSafe mount. I have Wirelss CarPlay and a flash drive full of music in the Insight's two USB ports. I park in a garage, so I wasn't sure how well the solar-powered TPMS system would work. That, and I didn't want anything on my dash.
 

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I guess it isn't objective to ask since you already had your Tymate alarm go off, but at what PSI do you think you could feel the flat? (were you local or hwy driving?) Since it wasn't a blowout (tire is ruined anyways), wondering if youcould have felt it and still pulled over without ruining the tire? (For sure the Tymate would tell you even sooner).
 

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The Insight's indirect TPMS didn't raise an alarm until pressure was down to 8psi.
Under U.S. law, the TPMS is required to warn the driver of cars and light trucks when tire pressure is 25 percent above or below the recommended pressure for that vehicle.
Should've alerted you around 26psi going by 25% from 35psi recommended. Perhaps you need to recalibrate the TPMS? Otherwise Honda sold us a vehicle with a TPMS system that doesn't follow federal guidelines. :oops:

Since it wasn't a blowout (tire is ruined anyways), wondering if youcould have felt it and still pulled over without ruining the tire?
If you have a good ear and the object is big enough you should be able to hear that something is not right. The noise would repeat itself as you're driving with each rotation. Plus the sound repeats a lot quicker as you drive faster and vice versa when you slow down.

With electric powered steering you probably wouldn't feel much unless you've a blowout on the highway. I've seen people drive on a flat tire without realizing similar to this youtube video.
 

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Should've alerted you around 26psi going by 25% from 35psi recommended. Perhaps you need to recalibrate the TPMS? Otherwise Honda sold us a vehicle with a TPMS system that doesn't follow federal guidelines. :oops:
I had put a little thought into this at the time of the incident. I had the direct TPMS setting to detect a drop of 15% - which it did perfectly.

The best I can think is that the indirect TPMS did not warn as I was on the highway at the time, and centrifugal force may have kept the left-rear tire's shape circular longer to postpone the alert. Once I slowed down for the exit, the alert popped up on the DII. Would that make sense?

As your aware, I run my tires at 40psi, and I've calibrated to that number on the indirect TPMS system without issues in my 4+ years of Insight ownership. This was my first flat.
 

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Should've alerted you around 26psi going by 25% from 35psi recommended. Perhaps you need to recalibrate the TPMS? Otherwise Honda sold us a vehicle with a TPMS system that doesn't follow federal guidelines. :oops:


If you have a good ear and the object is big enough you should be able to hear that something is not right. The noise would repeat itself as you're driving with each rotation. Plus the sound repeats a lot quicker as you drive faster and vice versa when you slow down.

With electric powered steering you probably wouldn't feel much unless you've a blowout on the highway. I've seen people drive on a flat tire without realizing similar to this youtube video.
Mine has had a few punctures. The TPMS did warn me right around 26psi.
 

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I just caught a flat on the highway recently. First time the TPMS warning came on, I immediately pulled into a mcdonalds, and pumped air into the tire. Saw the screw in my rear passenger side tire. Luckily a mile up the road was a tire shop and waited for them to repair it. If it happened 10-15 minutes later, I would have been in the middle of the sugar cane fields with zero businesses near by and no spare in the trunk. I just ordered a 2016+ spare tire kit on ebay. Hopefully that'll give me peace of mind.
 

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Very cool; didn't know pressure-reading stem caps existed. Does the 12V outlet on the Insight shut off when the car turns off? (my Ford Fiesta has an always-on 12V outlet, which would drain the battery if you use something like this).
The link you posted says "Currently unavailable", but I think this is the same item: Tymate CL205
 

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Very cool; didn't know pressure-reading stem caps existed. Does the 12V outlet on the Insight shut off when the car turns off? (my Ford Fiesta has an always-on 12V outlet, which would drain the battery if you use something like this).
The link you posted says "Currently unavailable", but I think this is the same item: Tymate CL205
Yes, the Insight's 12v outlet is only on when the car is on. The CL205 Tymate system looks identical to mine. I wonder if there is any difference. On mine, there is the ability to flip the orientation so the USB port is on the left side. There's no room if it's on the right to plug anything into it (if you needed another USB port).
 
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