My first oil change is free too, and they claim to use full synthetic, so I will go that route. Still may choose to add some Liquid-Moly after removing a little oil. I researched their website....they have a large variety of additives. A further search revealed an article about a special gas additive they developed for hybrid vehicles (not interested at the moment). There was an email contact with that article, so I wrote to ask about a special OIL additive for hybrids. Here's their response:
When it comes to protect a hybrid engine from wear and tear, there is no major difference to conventional engines. You may use MoS2 Anti Friction EngineTreatment (#2009), though we usually recommend the more effective Cera Tec (#20002) for modern engines.
Freundliche Grüße / Best regards
Further reading about the Cera Tec product did not convince me, so not sure for now which way to go. May end up getting the older 2009 product and splitting between my two vehicles for a modest boost.
Further reading about the Cera Tec product did not convince me, so not sure for now which way to go. May end up getting the older 2009 product and splitting between my two vehicles for a modest boost.
Just my opinion... but I'd personally lean more toward the known/existing variety of their engine treatment, which it sounds like you're leaning toward as well.
Anybody know how to improve winter gas? Maybe an octane booster?i want to take advantage of the colder temps and no AC use to maximize mpg..
Also kind of off-topic , but does anyone use Lucas, Chevron, etc fuel system cleaners? I have a bunch of big Lucas bottles I got for free so I’m going to start using it.
I wouldn't think an octane booster would help, especially if you deal with cold temperatures. Octane rating = resistance to detonation. Higher octane fuel is actually harder to burn than lower octane fuel. If you check out the thread, winter-gas-effect-mpg you'll find tips on how to maximize fuel economy in the winter.
Check air pressure in tires.
Don't idle, don't "pre-warm" car.
Try to minimize use of cabin heat.
Try to take less longer trips, than frequent short trips.
Had my Insight TOURING trim for about 1yr now. 40k miles 😊.
I drive 142 miles round trip everyday (home- work-home).
I plan on keeping her for 200k miles.
Besides oil changes,
what fuel and engine additives are you guys using? Ive used Techron from Pep boys on my last 100k mile vehicle.
The Honda recommendation for fuel is "top tier" unleaded gas with 87 octane or higher and no more than 15% ethanol (OM19 pg 546). Top Tier gas complies with higher standards of detergent additives that provide cleansing benefits preventing fuel system and engine deposits. Costco carries Top Tier fuel, and by refueling there, I know I'm already getting the 'extra' additives and don't bother adding any others.
If you use Chevron gas regularly, and nothing else. Then you dont need to use fuel additives. It already has Techron fuel additive in their gas. If you check their website it even says to not use Techron additive that you would buy from a store on top of their gas. I've filled nothing but Chevron 87 octane in my Insight since the day I baught it. Runs great and gets higher MPG than Honda claims.
I'm a new Insight owner so I am curious as well. I previously owned a Ford Explorer (3.5L N/A V6) and would use Techron (I'm in Canada so no Chevron Stations) or Seafoam once a month.
After doing some research on various octane boosters, I purchased 2 32oz bottles of Torco accelerator. About $23 for each. Probably not worth to buy just to improve mpg, unless it bumped your mpg to something crazy like 90mpg..
But I’m going to use both bottles on back to back fill-ups with 91 at Costco, which according to their chart will give me a little over 101 octane. I’m really curious to see if there will be a significant mpg boost.
Torco Accelerator is not just another octane booster, it's a race fuel concentrate. This fuel additive will boost your pump gas octane up to 14 points total 105
I got five bucks that says the difference will be negligible. Premium fuel (or better), in a car that does not require it, adds little/no benefit. That, and $23 for a half-gallon of fuel additive seems excessive. With all that said, please report back with your observations! You never know!
The Insight has an Atkinson-cycle engine (lower compression). Higher octane is mainly used in performance engines with higher compression to reduce knocking along with providing extra power. Since we are mainly driving a generator, there would be no difference in power during acceleration, passing, etc. I'm not 100% on how higher octane would manifest into MPGs. If it did we'd be running it in lawnmowers, mopeds - anything with a gas engine. Ergo, the money spend is probably not worth it.
However, I'm still interested in your next few tanks to see what happens!
Anybody using fuel injection cleaning ? I use the Lucas upper cylinder lubricant. I buy it by the gallon from Amazon and I have 3 of the small bottles that I use the big jug to fill up. I’ve been using it on every single gas fill-up for about 6 months now.
I just leave the small bottles in my trunk and have gotten used to putting it in every full-up. I use about 1/3 of the small bottle every fill-up. My mpg has improved slightly and I’m sure my engine is in tip too shape.
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