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Hi, I once had Pioneer speakers installed in the front door panels of my 2003 Accord and they made a huge difference in sound quality. Can anyone recommend a similar, simple (or maybe not so simple) speaker upgrade for an Insight EX?

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I'm in the final stages of getting the info I need to change the speakers. I will probably be ordering a set of kicker speakers to replace all but the center speaker once I have verified the ohm ratings of the rear deck woofer. I will also be dynamatting the car and eventually changing the center speaker. If I'm not satisfied after that I will connect an audio control module to the amp and run my own amps instead.

My car had terrible rattling when I bought it, but the dealer did a good job quieting it down after I brought it back.
 

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@Proforce, @tylers65, and @Verdier are great resources for all-things audio. There are some helpful suggestions in this thread on 'SoundSkins Pro' on how to upgrade speakers without cutting, and how deadening material might improve your sound enough to eliminate the need for upgrade. Haven't yet seen specific brand/type suggestions for speaker upgrade here yet, so hopefully you get some other good responses here to add to your info.
 

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I'm in the final stages of getting the info I need to change the speakers. I will probably be ordering a set of kicker speakers to replace all but the center speaker once I have verified the ohm ratings of the rear deck woofer. I will also be dynamatting the car and eventually changing the center speaker. If I'm not satisfied after that I will connect an audio control module to the amp and run my own amps instead.

My car had terrible rattling when I bought it, but the dealer did a good job quieting it down after I brought it back.
Still never got my dealer to do anything about the rattles I had in my doors.. I fixed it myself without having to take the doors off but still - that low level of commitment by my dealer was a little disturbing.

On another note, I remember you were talking about how the highs were too much and that you listen to the system with a USB stick.. I have the EX, and it's still a powerful system - and I've been more than satisfied with the sound from apple music.. Yesterday however, my co-worker wanted to listen to some of his music on it and had his USB stick.. The second he started up the music, I noticed EXACTLY what you were talking about.. The equalization in this mode is completely different from the way my i-phone sounds (Bluetooth or connected through the USB port). The highs were def boosted as well as the bass.. I'm not sure what kind of phone you have - but I wonder if it would sound better to your ears than the USB stick..
 

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I'm in the final stages of getting the info I need to change the speakers. I will probably be ordering a set of kicker speakers to replace all but the center speaker once I have verified the ohm ratings of the rear deck woofer. I will also be dynamatting the car and eventually changing the center speaker. If I'm not satisfied after that I will connect an audio control module to the amp and run my own amps instead.

My car had terrible rattling when I bought it, but the dealer did a good job quieting it down after I brought it back.
Still never got my dealer to do anything about the rattles I had in my doors.. I fixed it myself without having to take the doors off but still - that low level of commitment by my dealer was a little disturbing.

On another note, I remember you were talking about how the highs were too much and that you listen to the system with a USB stick.. I have the EX, and it's still a powerful system - and I've been more than satisfied with the sound from apple music.. Yesterday however, my co-worker wanted to listen to some of his music on it and had his USB stick.. The second he started up the music, I noticed EXACTLY what you were talking about.. The equalization in this mode is completely different from the way my i-phone sounds (Bluetooth or connected through the USB port). The highs were def boosted as well as the bass.. I'm not sure what kind of phone you have - but I wonder if it would sound better to your ears than the USB stick..
Interesting idea. Phones tend to have a lot of sound settings that change highs and lows as a normal setting without equalisation. I might try this out of curiosity, however, I find it hard to run the music from my phone without using some app through Android auto. I'd rather have full control using Honda's built in system and I've had trouble in the past doing this. I will look further into it. Another caveat is I'm running about 500 watts and I have the center channel which makes a tremendous amount of difference in sound. Honda's DSP seems intent on pushing all voice and as much highs it can into that center making it blare like a banshee in heat. I listened to an ex model and it was way less intrusive without the dang center channel but much less detailed considering the tweeters were different. I'm hoping the new speakers with sound dampening will help this problem. If not, I can slave off the amp with an audio control unit and maybe sum the center into the left right front speakers using a new amp. The only problem I might run into is the fact the GPS and voice control run through this speaker and by summing it the music volume may not drop enough when the GPS speaks. Sheesh. What a pain.

Final note. You should complain to Honda about your dealer. They sold you a new car with rattles in it. They should darn well fix it!
 

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Interesting idea. Phones tend to have a lot of sound settings that change highs and lows as a normal setting without equalisation. I might try this out of curiosity, however, I find it hard to run the music from my phone without using some app through Android auto. I'd rather have full control using Honda's built in system and I've had trouble in the past doing this. I will look further into it. Another caveat is I'm running about 500 watts and I have the center channel which makes a tremendous amount of difference in sound. Honda's DSP seems intent on pushing all voice and as much highs it can into that center making it blare like a banshee in heat. I listened to an ex model and it was way less intrusive without the dang center channel but much less detailed considering the tweeters were different. I'm hoping the new speakers with sound dampening will help this problem. If not, I can slave off the amp with an audio control unit and maybe sum the center into the left right front speakers using a new amp. The only problem I might run into is the fact the GPS and voice control run through this speaker and by summing it the music volume may not drop enough when the GPS speaks. Sheesh. What a pain.

Final note. You should complain to Honda about your dealer. They sold you a new car with rattles in it. They should darn well fix it!
With Apple car play the music app and podcasting apps give you full control pretty much of everything that you can do with your phone save for searching..

I'm kinda hurt that you think the EX sound system doesn't sound good though lol.. I think it sounds great for a stock sound system. I even drove the Accord with the same 10 speaker system with the center channel and honestly besides being louder, I thought it sounded horrible.. It broke up badly when you did play it loud and like you were saying - they were trying to do too much with the DSP..
 

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Interesting idea. Phones tend to have a lot of sound settings that change highs and lows as a normal setting without equalisation. I might try this out of curiosity, however, I find it hard to run the music from my phone without using some app through Android auto. I'd rather have full control using Honda's built in system and I've had trouble in the past doing this. I will look further into it. Another caveat is I'm running about 500 watts and I have the center channel which makes a tremendous amount of difference in sound. Honda's DSP seems intent on pushing all voice and as much highs it can into that center making it blare like a banshee in heat. I listened to an ex model and it was way less intrusive without the dang center channel but much less detailed considering the tweeters were different. I'm hoping the new speakers with sound dampening will help this problem. If not, I can slave off the amp with an audio control unit and maybe sum the center into the left right front speakers using a new amp. The only problem I might run into is the fact the GPS and voice control run through this speaker and by summing it the music volume may not drop enough when the GPS speaks. Sheesh. What a pain.

Final note. You should complain to Honda about your dealer. They sold you a new car with rattles in it. They should darn well fix it!
With Apple car play the music app and podcasting apps give you full control pretty much of everything that you can do with your phone save for searching..

I'm kinda hurt that you think the EX sound system doesn't sound good though lol.. I think it sounds great for a stock sound system. I even drove the Accord with the same 10 speaker system with the center channel and honestly besides being louder, I thought it sounded horrible.. It broke up badly when you did play it loud and like you were saying - they were trying to do too much with the DSP..
I don't think the ex sound system doesn't sound good, I think it has less detail in the sound due to lower end tweeters. Not a diss just an observation. Also from the research I did with the parts people at honda, the insight has a unique amp not used in any other Honda at this point. Not sure what amp set up the Accord is using but based on your observation it sounds like they are using a similar DSP. I need to find out where on my Android phone I should put the music so when I plug it in the Honda sees the music and I can play it right off the phone like on my USB drive. I haven't found an app that works with Android auto that I like, and personally I don't like Android auto's interface.
 

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It appears to me that the greatest gains in sound, at least on the EX, is to replace the rear speakers. When you direct all the sound to the rear, you hear just how crappy they are, plus the magnets are tiny. I’m thinking a small amp and good quality rear speakers would make the system sound pretty darn good. Anyone figured out how difficult it would be to replace the rear speakers and what their size and ohm rating is?
 

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I believe the ex speakers are similar in size to the touring. You should have 6.5 in front and rear and 1in tweeters front and rear. You'll need something like an audio control unit to run off the speaker wires from the factory amp to switch to rca outputs to run your own amp.

If you wish you can change all the speakers instead and just tun off the factory amp. Should improve the sound. I'm going to use kicker qs series component speakers and I think I'll use their crossover as well. They are pricey but very nice. If you need to pay less the ks series components will work too. If you check my channel I have a preview of the speakers I'm installing along with the correct speaker wire harnesses and install parts you need to install in the touring. The speakers are the same size in the ex just lower end tweeters as far as I can tell. That and a lack of a center and built in sub. If anyone needs any info on this feel free to email me at [email protected] and we can talk. I've been working on getting this done for a while and have done a lot of research.

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Has anyone installed a Sub and Amp in their insight?

Curious. Want to buy an insight but it seems that no one has installed a sub and amp and am wondering if the electronics can't handle a high wattage amp. I know that the battery is in the console but don't know if that impacts anything really. Has anyone done it and what type of amp did you install. Thanks.
 

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Curious. Want to buy an insight but it seems that no one has installed a sub and amp and am wondering if the electronics can't handle a high wattage amp. I know that the battery is in the console but don't know if that impacts anything really. Has anyone done it and what type of amp did you install. Thanks.
Feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you. [email protected]
 

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Feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you. [email protected]
Thanks. I'll contact you in a few weeks before purchase. Hope things go well with the build.
Thanks. I think it'll take some time to complete. After fooling with the fusion I'm pretty sure that disconnecting the anc microphones is top priority. The fusion's radio was significantly better after just disconnecting the microphones. I really hope I won't have to bypass the Honda's amplifier in the end due to it's absolutely impossible DSP. I'm going to see if the speaker replacement settles the treble down to a low roar. Wish me luck.
 

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Curious. Want to buy an insight but it seems that no one has installed a sub and amp and am wondering if the electronics can't handle a high wattage amp. I know that the battery is in the console but don't know if that impacts anything really. Has anyone done it and what type of amp did you install. Thanks.
Feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you. [email protected]
Super interested brother. Sent over an email.
 

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Curious. Want to buy an insight but it seems that no one has installed a sub and amp and am wondering if the electronics can't handle a high wattage amp. I know that the battery is in the console but don't know if that impacts anything really. Has anyone done it and what type of amp did you install. Thanks.
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I just finished installing new speakers, two amplifiers, a line output converter, and two subwoofers. The electrical system handles it just fine. I just posted a tutorial on how to disable the active noise cancellation module and the audible pedestrian warning sound at low speeds.

Here are links to both Topics, which include links regarding audio connector diagrams

https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/258-honda-insight-features-equipment/2198-audio-wiring-harness.html#/topics/2198

https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/258-honda-insight-features-equipment/2334-[how-]disable-audible-pedestrian-warning-system-module-active-noise-cancellatio.html#/topics/2334
 

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Good info in this thread. I don't want to do a total overall to the Touring's system but will I see substantial gains from just replacing the door speakers with upgraded component speakers? I'd leave the sub, center and amp stock. Will using the speakers crossover of the stock amp provide good results. I actually have 4 NIB Polk Audio DB6501s (6.5" component) that I was going to install in another car that I sold. Instead of them collecting dust in the garage, I may have them installed in the Insight if it's not a hack job/hassle/$$ to install them.

Thanks for any input.
 

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Well I'll start the upgrade on my car Wednesday with kicker qs series components and then all the speakers. I will report the difference in a video if any. I still think the amp DSP will have to be bypassed to truly fix this system.
 
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