Honda/Garmin vs. Google/Apple Maps vs. Waze Navigation
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I've been waiting for this for a long time and now am so so happy that it's available.
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I tried Waze but was not happy about the privacy issues, so I removed the app. It had way too much access. Check this out. https://www.privacycheck.com/app/ccae3900-336a-11e8-927c-ab45b7c18322
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Honda/Garmin Navigation vs. Google or Apple Maps
I use Waze, and although the road display is nowhere near as good as I would like it, it does navigation well and has major advantages with cloud reporting.
That being said, when I drive in very rural areas, there is no cell phone service, so phone-based navigation is lost...which can get you lost.
I would probably pay to upgrade to built in GPS Navigation if it didn't cost too much. Maybe just as much as an normal Garmin, possibly a little more, would be reasonable. Hopefully Honda will offer the upgrade.
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I use Waze, and although the road display is nowhere near as good as I would like it, it does navigation well and has major advantages with cloud reporting.
That being said, when I drive in very rural areas, there is no cell phone service, so phone-based navigation is lost...which can get you lost.
I would probably pay to upgrade to built in GPS Navigation if it didn't cost too much. Maybe just as much as an normal Garmin, possibly a little more, would be reasonable. Hopefully Honda will offer the upgrade.
Phil
I prefer Waze but I also have Google Maps installed with offline maps as backup. I use Waze mainly for traffic/police/crash/pothole reports when I'm driving on familiar roads. If I'm heading to a place I never been to I rely on Google Maps(mainly because it tells you what lane to be on and the user interface show lanes better along with offline maps so losing cell service temporarily wouldn't be an issue).
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How can that work without cell phone coverage? Does your phone actually have a GPS receiver in it? My iPhone 6S doesn't, so it depends on GPS timing from the cell sites (I used to work in that field and know the inner workings of cell site equipment). Basically, the phone has to receive the triangulation data from some source. I'm just wondering how Google offline maps can work.
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Google lets you download maps for offline use. It's helpful to be offline to manage data use. Here are a couple links describing how-to:
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291838?co=GENIE.Platform=iOS&hl=en
How to save Google Maps directions for offline use & travel
Most modern day smartphones including the iPhone 6s use A-GPS. The cell towers help calculate location faster when GPS signal is weak but our smartphones can still lock onto GPS signals without network coverage. Download google maps and choose an area you want to download offline maps for. Then turn off cellular connection in your iPhone 6s. You will see that google maps navigation will still work(you just won't get reports/traffic data). :wink:
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I have not seen GPS in my iPhone, but hey, I'll give it a try. If nothing else (like Insightfully said), at least I will have manual maps to see roadway choices. Before all this GPS stuff came about, we used to read maps and plan our routes. I was an early adopter of using a laptop computer in the car and running DeLorme Street Atlas USA with a GPS puck on the dash (later EarthMate GPS receivers got much smaller). Nice to know how to read a map, but the GPS did make it easy to go brainless. :grin:
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Honda/Garmin Navigation vs. Google or Apple Maps
Love that Honda navigation displays to the driver information interface, but otherwise that database seems pretty poor to find points of interest or input via voice. I'm thinking out loud here, but I can only think that maybe using the FourSquare connected database might help but that requires having the car connected to your phone for wifi (prefer to avoid the drain and keeping a hotspot on all the time).
I would say from early testing, that Google finds POIs by voice more accurately than Apple.
After that, I'm curious how well they all do in handling changing traffic conditions in a major metro area like Chicago. I guess I'd have set up the same destination in each and see what times/routes they generate (whether they agree or not)...pick one and see how true they are. If I had to guess, I'd figure that Honda nav would lag since it's pulling traffic data over radio?
Interested in hearing what people's experiences are to build a larger pool to judge from.
Love that Honda navigation displays to the driver information interface, but otherwise that database seems pretty poor to find points of interest or input via voice. I'm thinking out loud here, but I can only think that maybe using the FourSquare connected database might help but that requires having the car connected to your phone for wifi (prefer to avoid the drain and keeping a hotspot on all the time).
I would say from early testing, that Google finds POIs by voice more accurately than Apple.
After that, I'm curious how well they all do in handling changing traffic conditions in a major metro area like Chicago. I guess I'd have set up the same destination in each and see what times/routes they generate (whether they agree or not)...pick one and see how true they are. If I had to guess, I'd figure that Honda nav would lag since it's pulling traffic data over radio?
Interested in hearing what people's experiences are to build a larger pool to judge from.
If you want live traffic updates that are accurate I would use Waze. Its maps aren't great but it does route you around problems quickly. Waze saved me on a trip to Newark airport back in December when I-78 in NJ was closed @3:00am do to an accident. Thanks to Waze I made my flight.
I use Waze as my primary GPS due to it being more proactive in updating traffic data. The police and pothole alerts are helpful, too. You can also help other Wazers by submitting your own reports. It's not perfect though because it likes directing you down side streets more and sometimes you save like only a couple of minutes compared to the main street sitting in traffic.
Google maps is my backup GPS due to offline maps capability and knowing which lane to be in. It's my primary if I'm driving on unfamiliar roads.
Google maps is my backup GPS due to offline maps capability and knowing which lane to be in. It's my primary if I'm driving on unfamiliar roads.
I use Google Maps when I don't know my destination, and Apple Maps when I kind of know where I am, but need help finding the nearest freeway onramp. I turn off the maps once I find the onramp.
Since I have an iPhone, the steering wheel button maps to Siri, which will only bring me Apple Maps.
Definitely would be nice if either Apple or Google could send their map to the DII, but that's probably never going to happen.
Since I have an iPhone, the steering wheel button maps to Siri, which will only bring me Apple Maps.
Definitely would be nice if either Apple or Google could send their map to the DII, but that's probably never going to happen.
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Nothing like Waze!!!!!
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So I was using my in-car built-in NAV on my TOURING trim. I've used my Android cell phone Car Play NAV on my past 2 vehicles.
Do you guys find the Android Car Play NAV much easier/user friendly to use?
ie... Voice command on the Android Car Play NAV.,
Also if there is a slow down ahead, the Android NAV would tell you if it's a 5min, 10min, 20min slow down up ahead and marks the road "red" in color...
These are some of the things ive seen using the in-car NAV yesterday on my TOURING trim.
Do you guys find the Android Car Play NAV much easier/user friendly to use?
ie... Voice command on the Android Car Play NAV.,
Also if there is a slow down ahead, the Android NAV would tell you if it's a 5min, 10min, 20min slow down up ahead and marks the road "red" in color...
These are some of the things ive seen using the in-car NAV yesterday on my TOURING trim.
Being a lowly EX owner, I need to ask - what does the Touring's Garmin Maps provide that Apple CarPlay or Androud Auto with Waze or Maps does not? Waze and Apple Maps are updated regularly without the fuss of a dedicated mapping program like the Touring's. Why wouldn't you just use your smartphone and CarPlay/Android Auto?
Mainly convenience. The built in navigation system is there and ready to go without fussing with a smart phone. I will agree that Waze is very nice when compared with the Garmin software and I would prefer it if it wasn't for the extra fuss in setting it up. When I am driving my cell phone is dormant and not allowed to distract me. Even hands free calls will be ignored unless they are from someone important such as my better half.
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Do you think you'll continue to use Garmin for primary navigation, once cost becomes a differentiating facter after the 5 year free/included period?
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