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The "Google Custom Search" doesn't actually seem to search these forums! If I search for some topic related to my Honda Insight - a topic that I'm pretty sure if discussed here - I just get lots of www hits.
 

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Try the steps below, in supplement to the prior response Mr. Natural provided to your question - https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/4284-post39.html

While on the "New Posts" page, look for the "ADVANCED SEARCH" hyperlink (on the upper L side of screen, ~1/3 down from top). Type in a search word, but note that the search doesn't run if the word(s) your searching for are too short (e.g. 3 characters or less).
 

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What specific terms were you looking for?

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I can't recall, but I've been frequently seduced into trying the "Google Custom Search", only to recall that it is not helpful. Why is it there?
Previous response reminded me that the Tools menu for this website contains "Advanced Search". Could you make that item easier to see?
 

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"MPG" and "SMS" are a couple terms I tried in Advanced Search but were refused because they were too short. Is there an option to search for shorter terms?
 

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Are you trying to look for a certain thread/post?
Google Search should be able to do that.
I am interested in finding posts that talk about Android Auto. Type that into the "Google Custom Search" box and the results are not helpful - they come from all over the web. Use "Tools/Advanced Search" and it's only from these forums - much better.
 

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Are you trying to look for a certain thread/post?
Google Search should be able to do that.
As mentioned, Advanced Search does not search the forums for short terms like "MPG" and "SMS." Google Custom Search brings up results external to the forum. If the Google Search feature is not operating as designed for the site, please research and address.
 

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Yes, it would be nice if the "Google Custom Search" embedded at the top of this forum's pages could search that way by default. Currently the Google Search is set to search on sites outside of the forum.
 

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Hello there,

Try to put site:https://www.gen3insight.com/forums/ in the google search and search for what you want.

Let me know if that works.

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It's not worth the hassle! If I'm logged in, I will use Tools/Advanced Search. If I'm not logged in, the Tools menu does not appear. Sad.
As someone suggested, perhaps the "Google Custom Search" box could be modified to default to these forums - I'll bet it's part of the forum software config.
 

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It's not worth the hassle! If I'm logged in, I will use Tools/Advanced Search. If I'm not logged in, the Tools menu does not appear. Sad. As someone suggested, perhaps the "Google Custom Search" box could be modified to default to these forums - I'll bet it's part of the forum software config.
Even while not logged in, the "Advanced Search" shows up in the same location (left side, top 1/3 of page) if you click "Today's Posts." A validation step is needed to complete the search, but it's otherwise the same page/format.

Newbies will have to suffer and learn this "Advanced Search" technique because the "Google Custom Search" still isn't set up as intuitively as it should be. Hopefully the Admins will address this, rather than requiring users to type this forum's name to search the site.
 

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Avoid Google Searches entirely unless you want to be tracked all over the web!

We switched to Duck, Duck, Duck which works just as well and is designed to preserve privacy and block tracking cookies.
 

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Can the "Advanced Search" be adjusted to allow searches for 3-character words? There are several forum-relevant short text searches I'd like to and have tried to search (e.g. MPG, OBD, SMS, TSB) but any search term under 3-characters returns "text too short" message.

Please advise -?
 

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The issue with 3 character searches is that it will take longer due to searching more iterations of those terms and can potentially cause the search function to crash if it becomes overloaded.

We can look into it if the community is all on board. However, there may be some drawbacks if we make the change. Is everyone on board with this?

- JB
 

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The issue with 3 character searches is that it will take longer due to searching more iterations of those terms and can potentially cause the search function to crash if it becomes overloaded.

We can look into it if the community is all on board. However, there may be some drawbacks if we make the change. Is everyone on board with this?

- JB
My vote is to add it as trial, acknowledging this may be reversed if adverse effects arise. Will see how others weigh in...
 

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Matching for shorter terms can make for noisy search results. Terms like "MPG" will appear in plenty of posts.

I think it is also likely to make the search significantly slower. If you're starting from a 3-character stem and then going up (to look for related words), you have to search more words to start with. Currently you can skip any word that is 3 letters long. Which is a lot of them. Like, look at this post.

Search is a shared resource. If two people try a slow search at a time, that's a slower collective experience.

It might help but it's not a slam dunk.
 

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Rather than ‘slam dunk,’ was hoping we can try incremental improvements so the forum is a better experience for both new and experienced users alike.

Personally, I’ve made effort to read all threads. I make ‘mental note’ where sub-topics are relevant but buried within other threads. But even when I KNOW I’ve seen something once, the ‘Advanced Search’ isn’t robust enough to help me find what I recall seeing. Sometimes this occurs for me because the topic is too short to search (MPG, OBD, ANC, SMS, TSB, ACC, ABS, AA, VSA, MP3, USB, SRS, RDM). Other times, the wording is just plan hard to find among all the threads. Recent example occurred in this post that opens with "I swear I’ve seen it but could not find it…" https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/290-honda-insight-user-interface/1886-android-auto-crash-reboot.html

If we try short-text 'Advanced Search' and find its not feasible, the ability to TAG posts when written (and after?), THEN enabling ‘short-text search’ on just those tags could be an alternative. The short-text search could be limited to just the tags (versus being part of 'Advanced Search'). The tags could also serve a secondary purpose of aggregating relevant posts in one place for easy reading/reference across multiple threads.

I enjoy the conversational nature of the forum, but as membership continues to grow (now 320+ strong!!) better search capability and thread structure can make it easier for all of us to find/connect related topics and minimize the number of new/repeat threads.
 
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