I would think the trip computer would have all this info.
Is a Trip Summary Available on Insight?
Our Prius vehicle and other hybrid Toyota vehicles had a Trip Summary that indicates the length of the trip and approximate mileage traveled and approximate fuel economy.
Does Insight have anything like that when turning off the vehicle? All I see is the "ECON Score" with Insight -- and no real time data on the particular drive that just occurred.
Thanks.
Does Insight have anything like that when turning off the vehicle? All I see is the "ECON Score" with Insight -- and no real time data on the particular drive that just occurred.
Thanks.
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Thanks - will this have estimated MPG's??
If you set "Trip" A or B to auto-reset when the ignition turns off, the info you see should show drive-specific information for all measures like instant fuel economy 'in the moment,' average fuel economy, average speed, and elapsed time for the overall drive.
Unfortunately, it's not all available in a single view on the driver interface screen (behind steering wheel). You'll need to use the left scroll wheel to select "Range & Fuel" to see average fuel economy & instant fuel economy, and then scroll to "Speed & Time" to see average speed & elapsed time.
Another option would be using the display audio (center screen) to view some of the "Trip Computer" information there instead of the driver interface screen. However, I find the views are a limited subset of trip detail for the current drive and 3 prior drives.
You'll want to experiment between to see which views/combination you prefer between the driver interface and display audio. Let us know how it turns out!
Unfortunately, it's not all available in a single view on the driver interface screen (behind steering wheel). You'll need to use the left scroll wheel to select "Range & Fuel" to see average fuel economy & instant fuel economy, and then scroll to "Speed & Time" to see average speed & elapsed time.
Another option would be using the display audio (center screen) to view some of the "Trip Computer" information there instead of the driver interface screen. However, I find the views are a limited subset of trip detail for the current drive and 3 prior drives.
You'll want to experiment between to see which views/combination you prefer between the driver interface and display audio. Let us know how it turns out!
Thanks -- appreciate your knowledge on all this!
I have Trip A auto-reset for ignition off and Trip B auto-reset for full-tank refueling. Those are the most important numbers for many of us.
Using the Trip A for a game of doing better on the next drive is fun on my work commute. I note average MPG at several way-points and try to beat the previous number. Just having the information in front of you helps!
Using the Trip A for a game of doing better on the next drive is fun on my work commute. I note average MPG at several way-points and try to beat the previous number. Just having the information in front of you helps!
I like leaving one of the Trip meters on manual reset default to get a proxy for "lifetime cumulative MPG." Recognizing the cumulative info may be lost if an infotainment factory reset is made, I also track the info using hasarad's example. It's a pretty manageable exercise since there are so few fill-ups to track!
(credit to @hasarad for example in attachment)
(credit to @hasarad for example in attachment)
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Great thread!
What are the defaults for Trip A and Trip B?
What are the defaults for Trip A and Trip B?
Both Trip A and Trip B default to "manually reset" and can be adjusted under VEHICLE SETTINGS --> METER SETUP if desired. The alternate selections for reset timing are "when refueled" or "ignition off."Great thread!
What are the defaults for Trip A and Trip B?
My actual is logged at Fuelly.com. I find the current drive and tank values more important to have at hand in the car whilst driving.I like leaving one of the Trip meters on manual reset default to get a proxy for "lifetime cumulative MPG." Recognizing the cumulative info may be lost if an infotainment factory reset is made, I also track the info using hasarad's example. It's a pretty manageable exercise since there are so few fill-ups to track!
(credit to @hasarad for example in attachment)
Not sure if Fuelly includes this, but in the "spreadsheet method" I added a column for average daily temperature, to more directly track the relationship to my mpg result.My actual is logged at Fuelly.com. I find the current drive and tank values more important to have at hand in the car whilst driving.
I occasionally put a comment in the notes section about temp changes.Not sure if Fuelly includes this, but in the "spreadsheet method" I added a column for average daily temperature, to more directly track the relationship to my mpg result.
Just curious, but have you abandoned your spreadsheet method and use Fuelly for primary tracking now? I had considered your tracking methods the 'benchmark' among forum members...I occasionally put a comment in the notes section about temp changes.
Thanks! My dealer or a test driver must have set things like hasarad has — Trip A resets after ignition off; while Trip B never resets.Both Trip A and Trip B default to "manually reset" and can be adjusted under VEHICLE SETTINGS --> METER SETUP if desired. The alternate selections for reset timing are "when refueled" or "ignition off."
Good approach!
I stopped using the spreadsheet since entering data in two places to get the result was inconvenient. I was always entering data in Fuelly.com since it's available on my phone, and I like being able to see how the Insight group is doing in general. The only thing on my spreadsheet that wasn't on Fuelly was the actual vs. indicated difference. I found it to be due to the over/under "full" amount put in the tank at full fills due to the small amount put in (~8 gal) and the difference between pumps' shut-off thresholds. Over time, the difference was under 0.5 mpg. True story - I had a reeeeaally slow pump put in so much fuel (overfill) that I had a 54mpg tank (low for me during summer) which was followed by a quick-to-click pump which resulted in a 75mpg tank. The average of the two wound up being my expected 64mpg estimate.Just curious, but have you abandoned your spreadsheet method and use Fuelly for primary tracking now? I had considered your tracking methods the 'benchmark' among forum members...
My only fear is that Fuelly won't be around someday. Fortunately, we are able to export our data from the site, if need be, to migrate to another platform.
FYI - My 12yo. daughter likes unicorns.
I have trip B reset at tank fill up. That way I have an estimate of what to expect at the next fill-up.Thanks! My dealer or a test driver must have set things like hasarad has — Trip A resets after ignition off; while Trip B never resets.
Good approach!
Whoops! Misread what you do. I think I’ll end up tracking my fill ups manually.
Is there an overall mpg — for life of car — available via the Driver's Information Interface regardless of Trip A and Trip B reset settings?
Is there an overall mpg — for life of car — available via the Driver's Information Interface regardless of Trip A and Trip B reset settings?
The odometer seems to be the only 'permanent' tracking measure on the dashboard. I haven't found a permanent mpg indicator beyond the trip settings, and the watchout is that the 'trips' can be reset accidentally by driver in Settings OR by dealer in Software Update (see comments on reset in "Rear Camera Software Recall"). Like you, I've opted to track my mpg manually... just in case an unintended reset occurs.Is there an overall mpg — for life of car — available via the Driver's Information Interface regardless of Trip A and Trip B reset settings?
I don't use HondaLink since features are limited for the EX, but the HondaLink app does have a Virtual Dashboard that allows remote check of mileage, fuel range, oil life, etc. Would be interested in hearing from a HondaLink user if lifetime mpg is a reported/available lifetime measure...? Or if there's somewhere else where lifetime mpg is tracked on the car...?
No lifetime mpg reported on Hondalink app for my EX. I have trip B as my lifetime so a recall/unintended reset will wipe it.The odometer seems to be the only 'permanent' tracking measure on the dashboard. I haven't found a permanent mpg indicator beyond the trip settings, and the watchout is that the 'trips' can be reset accidentally by driver in Settings OR by dealer in Software Update (see comments on reset in "Rear Camera Software Recall"). Like you, I've opted to track my mpg manually... just in case an unintended reset occurs.
I don't use HondaLink since features are limited for the EX, but the HondaLink app does have a Virtual Dashboard that allows remote check of mileage, fuel range, oil life, etc. Would be interested in hearing from a HondaLink user if lifetime mpg is a reported/available lifetime measure...? Or if there's somewhere else where lifetime mpg is tracked on the car...?
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