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The manual (page 557) clearly says to change oil when the oil indicator reads 15%. I'm at 4,100 miles on my Insight and the oil indicator reads 70% remaining. If that continues, it will be well over 10,000 miles before my first oil change. I'm assuming at the factory they did not use synthetic oil. I'm wondering if this longer cycle is because the internal combustion engine mainly is used to recharge the battery.

Your thoughts on this?
 

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Why would you assume that the factory not use synthetic? The 0w-20 oil specified by Honda to use for these vehicles are only found full synthetic or synthetic blend. No such thing as conventional 0w-20 oil.
 

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Thanks for the info.* Never knew that.
 

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On my 2014 Accord, I get the maintenance minder at about 6500 miles or so (depending on driving habits and conditions).
It would be safe to assume, that because the ICE on the Insight runs about 2/3 the amount of time as a non-hybrid (my observation), that 10,000 miles is not out of the question.
 

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I can't find where it says specifically how many miles between oil changes on my new Insight. Any ideas
 

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There is no standard, depends on your driving style and conditions. I was told it is typically 8-10,000. May choose to do first change earlier.....
 

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I can't find where it says specifically how many miles between oil changes on my new Insight. Any ideas
I’m over 6000 miles now and it says I’m at 50% life. I’m leaving on 4500 to 5000 road trip in two weeks, so I’ll probably get it changed before we leave. Otherwise I planned on going until I reached 15% remaining life.
 

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I’m over 6000 miles now and it says I’m at 50% life. I’m leaving on 4500 to 5000 road trip in two weeks, so I’ll probably get it changed before we leave. Otherwise I planned on going until I reached 15% remaining life.
Helpful, thanks for sharing. If 6k miles is 50% life, you would've been ~10k miles at 15% life - which is right in expected range.
 

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At what point you guys take your car to service maintenance, when oil life goes to 0% or miles driven???? Thank you in advance
 

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Years ago, on regular ICE cars, Consumer Reports tracked taxicabs in Detroit and found that there was problem not changing oil for 80-100,000 miles! I may be misremembering!

So take with a grain of salt, but it's definitely been established that the recommended oil changes for decades were far more aggressive than need be (source of dealer profit?) and that even when changes every 3,000 miles were being advised, 7-10,000 was fine.

Having said all that, one questions why, with the Insight, and its Mainetnenace Minder, some dealers still slap a vinyl sticker with 3,500 mile oil change reminder on the windshield!! 😎 🙉
 

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At what point you guys take your car to service maintenance, when oil life goes to 0% or miles driven???? Thank you in advance
It doesn't just depend on miles driven. I was in my younger years a licensed mechanic. Guidelines for oil changes have changed dramatically since those days. However, in my case I do a lot of short trips as a senior and the car really doesn't get to stay at operating temperature very long. Given the climate I drive in (Canadian winters) excess moisture can form in the engine and will not be removed and that can lead to shorter engine life. For that reason, I plan to change oil at the end of the winter season even if I haven't reached the manufacturer's recommended mileage. I have had my insight for 8 months and only accumulated 4000 kms. That is 2,485 miles. My maintenance guide on the car tells me I have 40% life left on the oil so I think it is doing a pretty decent job of analyzing my driving habits. Regardless though of what it tells me I will be changing oil by the end of April. I will be interested to see how the onboard oil guide reacts to summer months where the engine is not working to provide cabin heat and comes to operating temperature much quicker.
 

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Having said all that, one questions why, with the Insight, and its Mainetnenace Minder, some dealers still slap a vinyl sticker with 3,500 mile oil change reminder on the windshield!!
Ha, I'm guessing the cheap window sticker is worth a shot a doubling oil service revenue if/when the driver returns twice (3.5k x 2) rather than once (7.0k)...
 

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Maintenance minder messages will start showing up on the dashboard when engine oil life is <15%, to let you know maintenance is recommended. It's totally your option to service earlier, if warranted by preference or conditions as Misterb mentions in current thread. maynrd150 also offers helpful perspective on service approach in the 'maintenance' and 'crush washer' threads.
 

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At what point you guys take your car to service maintenance, when oil life goes to 0% or miles driven???? Thank you in advance


Severe Conditions:

Driving less than 5 mi (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 mi (16 km) per trip.

Driving in extremely hot (over 90°F/32°C) conditions.

Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving.

Trailer towing, driving with a roof top carrier, or driving in mountainous conditions.

Driving on muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads
Lesson No. 4 - Signs of an Aged Oil


  • Oil is not like a fine wine that gets better over time. Instead, it ages at a rate that is influenced by driving conditions, fuel quality, engine age, motor oil quality and climate. If not changed in time, your oil will wither and fail to protect your engine.
  • So, let’s take a close look at the oil on the dipstick. The oil should look smooth and glossy and somewhat transparent. If it has sludgy deposits or grainy particles of dirt, it’s time for an oil change. The same is true if the oil looks too thick, is too dark (opaque), and/or has a putrid rotten-cheese smell.
  • If you still don’t know whether you need an oil change, consider doing a blotter spot test.
  • Oxidized and contaminated oil will lose interfacial tension. A simple test for interfacial tension is to place a drop of used oil from the dipstick on the surface of water. If the oil drop spreads out over the water’s surface (instead of beading up like a new oil) it may be time for an oil change.
https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/541/dipstick-oil-analysis
It depends on your driving condition and oil quality by checking the dipstick. I check the dipstick when the maintenance minder shows around 70%, 50%, 20%.
 
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