[Mr. Natural]

I’m wondering how often others rotate their tires? The owners manual says to do it at the oil change. I have 5000 miles on my Insight and the oil life is at 60 percent. At that rate I’d have well over 10,000 miles before rotating. I think that’s way too long, so I went ahead and rotated them today.

 

[hasarad]

I was going to do the same at 5-6K. I'm nearing 5K now, and the weather is getting colder. Will probably do it next weekend so I don't have to do it in the cold and snow later! I have a compact spare, so it will make the whole ordeal easier. If I didn't have a compact space, I'd "borrow" the one from my wife's '18 Civic

 

[dj1anddt2]

I will likely rotate at 5,000, then oil change and rotation at 10K, and alternate every 5K. I used to do it every oil change but my old Civic probably should have had more rotations more with these rough roads. Plus the EX’s energy saving tires feel like they need to be rotated more often than others I’ve owned.

 

[Mesanp]

I’ve always been told to rotate every 5K. Manual says the car will tell you when it needs to be done. I called the dealer and they said doesn’t need to be done until the car tells you which is about 10K. Ok....

 

[andrew28]

I’ve always been told to rotate every 5K. Manual says the car will tell you when it needs to be done. I called the dealer and they said doesn’t need to be done until the car tells you which is about 10K. Ok....

The tire rotation sub code last came on for me when I had 5,000 miles. I should be due for another 5,000 miles rotation in mid-December at my current driving rate. Will let you know if the maintenance minder light comes on then. The Michelin tire warranty booklet says to rotate every 6,000 miles or earlier.

 

[insightfully]

The tire rotation sub code last came on for me when I had 5,000 miles. I should be due for another 5,000 miles rotation in mid-December at my current driving rate. Will let you know if the maintenance minder light comes on then. The Michelin tire warranty booklet says to rotate every 6,000 miles or earlier.

Did the code come up separate from oil life reminder? Do you think being a low-mileage annual driver makes a difference in when it triggers?

 

[andrew28]

Did the code come up separate from oil life reminder? Do you think being a low-mileage annual driver makes a difference in when it triggers?

The first one did came on with the oil life reminder. It didn't on my 2nd oil change since I only drove about 3,700 miles. I think it triggers every 5,000 miles so I should be able to confirm that in a month.

 

[lborne]

I could not find markings indicating that the tires on the EX are directional - right? I rotated mine at the first oil change - I did it at 15% life because I had a free coupon from Honda that was about to expire and we were about to go on a long 3k mile trip. Oil change at the dealer, but tire rotation in my garage. I did it the brute force way at home using 2 jacks, but it took twice as long because I went from right front to left back and vice versa. It bothers me that the rims are not symmetrical.

 

[insightfully]

I could not find markings indicating that the tires on the EX are directional - right? I rotated mine at the first oil change - I did it at 15% life because I had a free coupon from Honda that was about to expire and we were about to go on a long 3k mile trip. Oil change at the dealer, but tire rotation in my garage. I did it the brute force way at home using 2 jacks, but it took twice as long because I went from right front to left back and vice versa. It bothers me that the rims are not symmetrical.

The OEM tires are non-directional.

 

[hasarad]

I could not find markings indicating that the tires on the EX are directional - right? I rotated mine at the first oil change - I did it at 15% life because I had a free coupon from Honda that was about to expire and we were about to go on a long 3k mile trip. Oil change at the dealer, but tire rotation in my garage. I did it the brute force way at home using 2 jacks, but it took twice as long because I went from right front to left back and vice versa. It bothers me that the rims are not symmetrical.

Since you can't see both sides of the car at once, the non-symmetrical wheels don't bother me.

I rotate mine using only one jack and a donut spare. I take this time to clean inside/outside of wheels while they're off, so it takes a little more time.

Proper rotation for a FWD car is:

Left-front (temporarily place donut) to left-rear.
Left-rear to right-front.
Right-front to right-rear.
Right-rear to left-front.
Check/set pressures (including donut spare).

I do this every 5,000 miles.

 

[andrew28]

I’ve always been told to rotate every 5K. Manual says the car will tell you when it needs to be done. I called the dealer and they said doesn’t need to be done until the car tells you which is about 10K. Ok....

The tire rotation sub code last came on for me when I had 5,000 miles. I should be due for another 5,000 miles rotation in mid-December at my current driving rate. Will let you know if the maintenance minder light comes on then. The Michelin tire warranty booklet says to rotate every 6,000 miles or earlier.

I'm 200 miles away from 5,000 miles since my last tire rotation. The tire rotation didn't show up last week but it's now there when I checked yesterday. I haven't got like an alert when I start up the car though.

 

[Jc_vt]

I drive about 1,000 miles per month, have separate winter tires and rims, so never have to rotate, just keep track of where the rims go next when I change them out; means maybe 6,000 before a "rotation"

 

[sEXzNsite]

Has anyone rotated their tires THEMSELVES on their Insight yet? It appears the only jack points on these cars are at 4 corners which means one would basically need two jacks to jack up each side to rotate the tires from front to rear. On all my previous cars I could jack the front cross member and the rear axle somewhere. Since this insight has baically the entire under carriage covered so one basically can't see anything unless you first pulled everything off. A lift is ideal, but I for one unfortunately don't have that luxury.

 

[insightfully]

Has anyone rotated their tires THEMSELVES on their Insight yet? It appears the only jack points on these cars are at 4 corners which means one would basically need two jacks to jack up each side to rotate the tires from front to rear. On all my previous cars I could jack the front cross member and the rear axle somewhere. Since this insight has baically the entire under carriage covered so one basically can't see anything unless you first pulled everything off. A lift is ideal, but I for one unfortunately don't have that luxury.

A couple examples include @lborne who shared experience above using two jacks, and @hasarad who shared an interesting observation on tire rotation in the Jack Options thread. Are your tires due for rotation?

 

[sEXzNsite]

A couple examples include @lborne who shared experience above using two jacks, and @hasarad who shared an interesting observation on tire rotation in the Jack Options thread. Are your tires due for rotation?

I got a B1 service light at 10,600 miles and amongst all the visual stuff with Oil and Filter change the #1 does indicate a Tire Rotation.

 

[hasarad]

@sEXzNsite - This would be a good reason to pick up a spare tire kit. I use mine for tire rotations. I would think it'd be much safer than two jacks if the car were to shift while raising it.

 

[sEXzNsite]

@sEXzNsite - This would be a good reason to pick up a spare tire kit. I use mine for tire rotations. I would think it'd be much safer than two jacks if the car were to shift while raising it.

Hasarad,

Your jack option of the rear wheel lifting when you jacked the front would be good enough for me to be able to rotate front to rear and visa versa. Where exactly is the Jack points?

It's not very clear from the photo in the maintenance manual. I've included photos of where I'm thinking they are; GREEN tape on the Folded Lip, NOT BLUE tape on the Flat area, correct?

L FRONT

L - REAR

 

[hasarad]

Using my finding of lifting both wheels from the front jack point is NOT recommended. It was merely an observation. DO NOT DO IT.

Your green tape area is what I use for the jack point. It's a reinforcement point at the pinch weld.

When rotating the tires, they go front straight back and backs cross to the opposite front sides. You will need either a lift, two jacks or a spare to accomplish this. I use a spare for safety purposes. My driveway has a slight incline where I would not trust a jack not to shift while using two.

I would add, if you are uncertain how to jack up your Insight, you should probably not be gambling with sketchy ideas like using one jack point for the entire side of the car. As well, you should probably get someone who's done a few tire rotations to watch you the first time to make sure you don't kill yourself or damage your car.

 

[sEXzNsite]

Using my finding of lifting both wheels from the front jack point is NOT recommended. It was merely an observation. DO NOT DO IT.

Your green tape area is what I use for the jack point. It's a reinforcement point at the pinch weld.

When rotating the tires, they go front straight back and backs cross to the opposite front sides. You will need either a lift, two jacks or a spare to accomplish this. I use a spare for safety purposes. My driveway has a slight incline where I would not trust a jack not to shift while using two.

I would add, if you are uncertain how to jack up your Insight, you should probably not be gambling with sketchy ideas like using one jack point for the entire side of the car. As well, you should probably get someone who's done a few tire rotations to watch you the first time to make sure you don't kill yourself or damage your car.

Thanks for your input. With all my previous cars I had the front cross members or lower a-frames to jack up the front and the rear differential/axles/a-arms to jack up the rear. With the Insight most everything on the under carriage of the front is covered so it's difficult to tell where anything is. I suppose the easiest way is to use two jacks and a spare - just gotta find a spare somewhere

 

[sEXzNsite]

Using my finding of lifting both wheels from the front jack point is NOT recommended. It was merely an observation. DO NOT DO IT.

Your green tape area is what I use for the jack point. It's a reinforcement point at the pinch weld.

When rotating the tires, they go front straight back and backs cross to the opposite front sides. You will need either a lift, two jacks or a spare to accomplish this. I use a spare for safety purposes. My driveway has a slight incline where I would not trust a jack not to shift while using two.

I would add, if you are uncertain how to jack up your Insight, you should probably not be gambling with sketchy ideas like using one jack point for the entire side of the car. As well, you should probably get someone who's done a few tire rotations to watch you the first time to make sure you don't kill yourself or damage your car.

My neighbor across the street got a 2020 Civic late last year so I asked if their Civic had a spare and luckily it did!

So that actually wasn't too bad - used 1 Jack to do 5 lifts. Took 5 min to loosen all lug nuts and locks, 6 mins to Jack and R/R each wheel and 1 min to torque = Total time 30 mins. Don't want to keep bothering my neighbor so I guess I gotta hit the junk yards cause those spares are hella expensive!