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Touring (17") and LX/EX (16") Wheel Weight

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tylers65
Because there is always someone in these forums that will ask this question...

2019 Insight Touring Wheel (17) without tire weighs exactly 27 pounds... I just weighed one off of our car...
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ThatGuyDerek
tylers65 said:
Because there is always someone in these forums that will ask this question...

2019 Insight Touring Wheel (17) without tire weighs exactly 27 pounds... I just weighed one off of our car...
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Any pics and specs (width, offset, size, etc.) of the wheels you put on your car?
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ThatGuyDerek said:
Any pics and specs (width, offset, size, etc.) of the wheels you put on your car?
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American Racing AR904 in 17 X 7.

Wheel Size
17 X7 5-114.30
Offset 40
Hub Bore Size 73
Weight 21

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Anybody know what the weight of the 16 inch LX/EX wheels are? I am seeing many after market 16 inch wheels around 17-19 lbs. 27 lbs for 17 inch wheels seems incredibly over weight.



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ADNOH said:
Anybody know what the weight of the 16 inch LX/EX wheels are? I am seeing many after market 16 inch wheels around 17-19 lbs. 27 lbs for 17 inch wheels seems incredibly over weight.



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According to Hondapartsnetwork it’s 22.71 pounds.
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Lucky for us, carbon fiber is set to get really cheap and should help wheel makers bring us some affordable carbon fiber options. I would even be happy with partial carbon fiber wheels if its cheaper but gets us some decent weight reduction.
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Anyone know the offset of the OEM wheels?

Also wow 27lbs seems real tubby for a 17" wheel.
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ADNOH said:
Anybody know what the weight of the 16 inch LX/EX wheels are? I am seeing many after market 16 inch wheels around 17-19 lbs. 27 lbs for 17 inch wheels seems incredibly over weight.



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I believe they 22.7lbs.

I am looking at a set of Enkei VR5......they weigh 17.9lbs.......that would be a total savings of 19lbs.

Carbon fiber rims would be nice 💰💰💰💰
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Gen3_Insight said:
I believe they 22.7lbs.

I am looking at a set of Enkei VR5......they weigh 17.9lbs.......that would be a total savings of 19lbs.

Carbon fiber rims would be nice 💰💰💰💰
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https://owners.honda.com/collision/
Check out the "wheel story" video from Honda before buying new wheels. Make sure they don't just look good but are properly tested for safety.:smile:

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ScubaGuy
tylers65 said:
American Racing AR904 in 17 X 7.

Wheel Size
17 X7 5-114.30
Offset 40
Hub Bore Size 73
Weight 21
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@tylers65 This was very helpful and I like your thinking here in -24lb. wheel weight reduction with Aluminum Wheels. I've got my eye on picking these wheels myself but can't find them at $108 like you did! :smile:

BRAND: American Racing
STYLE: AR904
SIZE: 17x7
BOLT PATTERN: 5x114.3 (5x4.5")
OFFSET: +40mm
HUB BORE: 72.6
BACKSPACING: 5.5"
FINISH: Silver/Machined
CONDITION: Brand New
QUANTITY: 1 Wheel
PART NUMBER: AR90477012440

***Silver W/ Machined Face American Racing AR904 Wheel (Series AR904S). One Piece Aluminum.
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ScubaGuy said:
***Silver W/ Machined Face American Racing AR904 Wheel (Series AR904S). One Piece Aluminum.
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Considering PVD as well....

PVD finishes are the latest technology available in the world of wheel finishing. This is the only process for the "Chrome" look that is safe to do on high performance wheels. There is no acid dipping / etching or extreme heat used in the process. It is a vacuum plating process that is completely safe and environmentally friendly. When completed the finish has the look of chrome without the normal pitfalls of traditional chrome finishing. Wash with mild soap and water only.

BRAND: American Racing
STYLE: AR904
SIZE: 17x7
BOLT PATTERN: 5x114.3 (5x4.5")
OFFSET: +40mm
HUB BORE: 72.6
BACKSPACING: 5.5"
FINISH: Silver/Machined
CONDITION: Brand New
QUANTITY: 1 Wheel
PVD PART NUMBER: AR90477012840

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JK919 said:
Anyone know the offset of the OEM wheels?

Also wow 27lbs seems real tubby for a 17" wheel.
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+45mm according to tirerack (EX)

can confirm this works (I don't know if its right) because I bought 16" winter boots for mine
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They are 48.6lbs

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tylers65 said:
LX weighs 2987 pounds
EX weighs 3000 pounds
Touring weighs 3078 pounds

There are only 91 pounds separating the LX from the Touring. Tires and wheels make up about 30 pounds of that extra weight for the Touring. Leather interior, fog lights, and other extra features round out the other 60

Tires
215 /55 R16 = 20 pounds each
215 /50 R17 = 21 pounds each
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@tylers65 Did you put OEM Wheel Locks on at all?
Wheel Locks, Chrome; Honda Part No.: 08W42-SCV-101

I believe these aftermarket White Knight 791307-1SAM Chrome Installation M12x1.50 Open End Bulge Acorn Lug Nut Kit with Wheel Locks, will work?
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I'm getting new shoes next Thursday...

I'm going for higher mpg.

Study this:

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wh...-15X6.5ET38&fcl=50mm&wcl=30mm&scl=50mm&sr=0mm

New wheels:
14.07 lbs
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/maxxim-winner/p/16257

OE Wheels
27.00 lbs
https://www.gen3insight.com/forum/161-tires-wheels-suspension/78-17-inch-touring-wheel-weight.html

New Tires:
19 lbs (1 lb less weight of OE, but 80,000 mileage)
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/continental-control-contact-tour-a-s-plus/p/39264


OE Tires (55000 mileage):
20 lbs
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/continental-pro-contact-tx
215/50-17

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JK919 said:
Anyone know the offset of the OEM wheels?

Also wow 27lbs seems real tubby for a 17" wheel.
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That does seem like a lot. I have 20” x9” wheels on my truck and they only weigh 30lbs.
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Jason said:
I'm getting new shoes next Thursday... I'm going for higher mpg.
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Any concerns with the trade-off in replacing the Touring low rolling resistance OEM tire (ProContact TX) with higher traction replacement (ControlContact Tour A/S Plus)? Or is the hope that lower tire weight offsets the difference?

I tried searching for low rolling resistance (LRR) measures for each tire, but apparently manufacturers don't share that openly as general info (?). The best I could find is in snapshot/attachment from Continental site, which shows the tires have comparable properties, but ProContact includes a "mileage" score.

It's a bit anecdotal (only 1 example/mention...), but a Prius owner thought the Control Contact lowered their mpg:


And I only find Continental PureContact and CrossContact being mentioned in reviews as LRR:

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I could not find any "energy" or "LRR" tires for 15", well at Discount Tire anyway.

The Hyundai Ionic and the Kia Niro have the same drive train and suspension. The Ionic uses 15" and 17" wheels, while the Niro uses, 16" and 18" wheels.

The tire I picked was 19lbs and all the others were 20lbs or 22lbs

One of the Features on Discount Tire's website is the Star rating and the Good, Better, Best.
So, put in Best, and see what they have.

All they have are these (that are not sport type tires)

Bridgestone Ecopia at 22 lb
Yokohama Avid Ascend at 22 lb
Continental Tour A/S Plus 19 lb

I'm curious about the Tour A/S Plus has the same 10-rating as the TX. I think the 33 total lbs is going to make a difference (I sure hope so at least).
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JK919 said:
Anyone know the offset of the OEM wheels?

Also wow 27lbs seems real tubby for a 17" wheel.
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Check out this for example:
https://www.visionwheel.com/wheel/2386/VisionWheel/426 Cross?finishID=4
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I wonder what the gas mileage increase would be going from 22.71 lbs to 13.7 lbs per wheel for an EX

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whe...utoModel=Insight&autoYear=2019&autoModClar=EX

Weight savings 90.84 lbs - 54.8= 36.04 lbs of unsprung weight. (49.49% lighter)
Using the Porsche standard ratio 1:7, that's the equivalent of removing 252.28lbs of sprung weight. Which should at the very least see a several mpg gain over OEM wheels.

Unfortunately this isn't something I can afford, or justify with the atrocious roads in upstate NY.

The weight savings for a Touring, would be even better. 27lbs-14.6lbs per wheel = 12.4lbs per wheel x4= 49.6lbs. (59.62% Lighter)
Porsche 1:7 ratio = 347.2 lbs.
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